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Message ID: 10473

Date: 2018-06-22

Author:Patricia Babcock

Subject:Re: Research on children being forcibly removed from parents

My understanding is that parents and children are supposed to be provided the same case number by DHS but the children are then provided another HHS number. The question is whether or not the DHS number is recorded in the HHS system and if so, are the two agency's capable of integrating the two systems or extract data from one system to match to the other system. If not, do they have the expertise in-house to extract and match? Seems like we have looped right back to the importance of integrated/compatible data systems. Patricia Babcock, Ph.D., LCSW Co-Director Center for Integrated Behavioral Healthcare Department of Behavioral Sciences and Social Medicine Florida State University College of Medicine 115 West Call Street Tallahassee, Florida 32306 Cell 850.525.9295 ________________________________ From: bounce-122654596-73871611@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Bruce Borkosky Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 8:44 AM To: Child Maltreatment Researchers Subject: Re: Research on children being forcibly removed from parents John, In my opinion, the biggest problem is that the administration has little to no mechanism for ensuring reunification. Thus, it is likely that some children will never find their parents. I'm not sure how one would go about researching that problem, given that the administration doesn't have a database tracking the kids. BB On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:20 PM John Eckenrode > wrote: Dear CMRL, We have received a number of posts to the CMRL in recent days regarding the zero tolerance policy on the border and the separation of children from parents. Once the policy was rescinded yesterday, we temporarily stopped posting these since the issue seemed temporarily resolved. However, it is now clear that the order will not necessarily result in children being reunited with parents. This is a highly charged issue and people rightfully want to comment as professionals and citizens. I have my own strong opinions, but they are not relevant to my role as moderator of the list – I am expressing those through other channels. Several of the posts I did not accept could be characterized as advocacy for particular actions – professional or political. Some express views opposed to the policy, and some in favor of it. If I posted all of them, I could easily see the list become a forum for heated exchanges and personal insults. On the other hand, since the goal of CMRL is to share information relevant to research in child welfare, I will consider posting messages that share research-related information relevant to child separations from parents, since research can and should inform this policy issue. To protect the integrity of the list, however, I will continue to reject posts that are entirely focused on advocating a political or ideological position or which are intended to attack or vilify individuals or groups of people. People who have strong political views can express those through other online channels, contact members of congress, professional associations, etc., or offer their help in other ways. Thank you for helping keep this list focused on bringing research to bear on important practice or policy issues affecting children and families. John Eckenrode Co-Director, NDACAN -- -------------------------------------- Bruce G. Borkosky, Psy.D. PA 803 Jenks Ave. Suite 4 Panama City, FL 32401 800-919-9008 Fax 813-200-8450 Website: https://www.fl-forensic.com CEU Courses: http://www.zurinstitute.com/bborkosky.html This communication is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please communicate the error immediately, and delete all copies.

My understanding is that parents and children are supposed to be provided the same case number by DHS but the children are then provided another HHS number. The question is whether or not the DHS number is recorded in the HHS system and if so, are the two agency's capable of integrating the two systems or extract data from one system to match to the other system. If not, do they have the expertise in-house to extract and match? Seems like we have looped right back to the importance of integrated/compatible data systems. Patricia Babcock, Ph.D., LCSW Co-Director Center for Integrated Behavioral Healthcare Department of Behavioral Sciences and Social Medicine Florida State University College of Medicine 115 West Call Street Tallahassee, Florida 32306 Cell 850.525.9295 ________________________________ From: bounce-122654596-73871611list.cornell.edu on behalf of Bruce Borkosky Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 8:44 AM To: Child Maltreatment Researchers Subject: Re: Research on children being forcibly removed from parents John, In my opinion, the biggest problem is that the administration has little to no mechanism for ensuring reunification. Thus, it is likely that some children will never find their parents. I'm not sure how one would go about researching that problem, given that the administration doesn't have a database tracking the kids. BB On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:20 PM John Eckenrode > wrote: Dear CMRL, We have received a number of posts to the CMRL in recent days regarding the zero tolerance policy on the border and the separation of children from parents. Once the policy was rescinded yesterday, we temporarily stopped posting these since the issue seemed temporarily resolved. However, it is now clear that the order will not necessarily result in children being reunited with parents. This is a highly charged issue and people rightfully want to comment as professionals and citizens. I have my own strong opinions, but they are not relevant to my role as moderator of the list – I am expressing those through other channels. Several of the posts I did not accept could be characterized as advocacy for particular actions – professional or political. Some express views opposed to the policy, and some in favor of it. If I posted all of them, I could easily see the list become a forum for heated exchanges and personal insults. On the other hand, since the goal of CMRL is to share information relevant to research in child welfare, I will consider posting messages that share research-related information relevant to child separations from parents, since research can and should inform this policy issue. To protect the integrity of the list, however, I will continue to reject posts that are entirely focused on advocating a political or ideological position or which are intended to attack or vilify individuals or groups of people. People who have strong political views can express those through other online channels, contact members of congress, professional associations, etc., or offer their help in other ways. Thank you for helping keep this list focused on bringing research to bear on important practice or policy issues affecting children and families. John Eckenrode Co-Director, NDACAN -- -------------------------------------- Bruce G. Borkosky, Psy.D. PA 803 Jenks Ave. Suite 4 Panama City, FL 32401 800-919-9008 Fax 813-200-8450 Website: https://www.fl-forensic.com CEU Courses: http://www.zurinstitute.com/bborkosky.html This communication is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please communicate the error immediately, and delete all copies.